In this episode, Dr. Joneigh Khaldun sits down with Dr. Peter McCauley, Practicing Pediatrician and Independent Advisor with 2Flo Ventures, for a conversation about the future of health care and public health in the United States. Together, they discuss why prevention is difficult to scale, how value-based care can shift incentives toward better outcomes, and why public health and health care delivery must work together to improve access, affordability, and trust. They also explored the real impacts of insurance loss on families and communities, and what leaders should be thinking about next.

